S3E10: David Moreland: Making Magic with The Great and Powerful Dave!

Magic meets Theatre in this episode as Amy and Aaron give a sneak peek into the upcoming The Great and Powerful Dave! magic show and masterclass with the incomparable David Moreland. He's a TV and film actor, children's magician, and former BTE Ensemble member. David shares stories from his journey blending acting and illusion. Discover how David’s early days in Bloomsburg shaped his career, the serendipitous moment that launched his life in magic, and the joys (and perils) of performing for young audiences. 

Whether you’re a theatre lover, a magic enthusiast, or just curious about the crossroads of art and community, this episode is packed with laughter, inspiration, and a touch of wonder. Don’t miss your chance to hear from a true “universal synapse”—and find out how a childhood interest can become a lifelong passion.

Tickets for David’s shows and masterclass are available at www.bte.org.

Recorded and edited by: Amy Rene Byrne

Original Music by: Aaron White

Transcripts of all Season 2 and 3 episodes are available on our Buzzsprout website.

Check out our current season: http://www.bte.org
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Bloomsburg Theatre Ensemble: Down Center

Season 3 Episode 10

David Moreland: Making Magic with the Great and Powerful Dave! 

Amy: Welcome to Bloomsburg Theatre Ensemble Down Center, a podcast where magic meets meaning for our company, our people, our art, and our town, and we *Abracadabra* it?, Front and Down Center, 

Aaron: Sure,

Amy: You've written worse.

Aaron: True. I have written worse.

Amy: Hello, I am Resident Artist Amy Rene Byrne, and I'm here with my fellow Ensemble member, Aaron White. And we are thrilled to have a truly enchanting guest on the podcast today. You might recognize him from classic TV shows like Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Friends Will and Grace, or from films such as Legally Blonde and Donny Darko.

But here in Bloomsburg, he is best known for his captivating performances on BTE stage and his spell binding magic shows that have delighted audiences of all ages. He's a former BTE Ensemble member who has seamlessly blended his acting prowess with the art of illusion, creating unforgettable experiences for theatregoers and young magicians alike.

And this summer he's returning to BTE as: the Great and Powerful Dave! Bringing both a family friendly magic show and a masterclass for inspire aspiring young magicians. Please welcome us in joining the incomparable David Moreland. Wow,

David: Wow, what an introduction. Thank you so much, Amy.

Amy: You're welcome. That might be the longest introduction I've ever written, but you have accomplished quite a bit.

David: Well, thank you. Thank you so. It's great to be here and it's great to think that I'll be walking the boards on the Alvina Krause Theatre stage again

Aaron: Yeah,

David: This June.

Amy: I cannot wait. Yes. When was the last time you were on the Alvina Krause stage?

David: You know, I was thinking of that on my walk today. I mean, I was acting with the company from 1985 to 1996 and so I would've said 1996, but remember a production of, I believe it was Born Yesterday

Aaron: Ah.

David: That Aaron's partner Nina was in, and I came to see the production, I think it was like a Saturday night, and then there was gonna be a Sunday matinee the next day, I'm pretty sure it was Jim Goode's idea that I would take one of the very small walk-on rolls of like a page from the hotel who comes to deliver a telegram. I don't remember what it was and we rehearsed it briefly and they got me into something like a costume and I came in and delivered that telegram or that suit or that, you know,

Aaron: Whatever. 

David: Whatever it was. so that's the last time I was on the Alvina Krause Theatre stage.

Aaron: That's great.

Amy: Wow. And you were an Ensemble member for 11 years, is that right?

David: Well, I was, I, I was acting with a company and probably an Ensemble member for nine of those years. Yeah, 

Amy: Oh my goodness. Do you have a favorite show from your time here?

David: Oh, you know, there's so many, I, I loved, Light Up the Sky-- the Moss Hart

showbiz, show biz comedy was a particular favorite. I have happy memories of the Christmas shows. They were exhausting because

Amy: Oh yeah.

David: So many performances.

Aaron: Yeah.

David: But still just like working with the kids and working in such an intense atmosphere, but also being a special part of folks' holiday season, that was like a fond memory of mine. You know, and I went out almost every year I was with the company on the Theatre in the Classroom tour, 

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: Which is the children's theatre tour that goes out in March and April to elementary schools. And, now that I'm a magician and I'm a children's magician, I perform exclusively for kids, or rather, my show is focused Focused exclusively on the kids.

And so much of what I bring to the show, I think I learned from those years at the Bloomsburg Theatre Ensemble performing so many times for kids,

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: Almost countless number of times. Yeah. 

Aaron: And in different, iterations too. Being on tour in Hazelton where you got like 500 kids in a gigantic auditorium and then Greenwood friends where you got maybe 15 to 20. It's just a, a good ringer. It's a good gauntlet to get chops, know? Yeah.

David: Absolutely and of course the, the fun and the peril of performing for kids is you know exactly where you stand. And if they don't like something or if they're bored by something, they'll let you know. And if you're holding them, then you will know and, and you know, the fun thing about TIC is that you're so close to that audience--

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: You know, geographically speaking, you are right there in their lap. And, you, it's, It's kind of a trial by fire of sorts where you learn the skills you need to do to hold the attention of a young audience.

Aaron: it's funny 'cause I hadn't thought about them being related, but they really are very close cousins, seeing your magic show and, and seeing it TIC today, you know, it's a very closely related. 

David: Yeah. And of course, Aaron has seen my show because his previously alluded to partner Nina, who I worked with during my days at Bloomsburg Theatre Ensemble and prior to Born Yesterday, by the way, is now, children's librarian with the Williamsport,

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: Public Library, and I performed for Nina and her kids, several times

Aaron: Yeah.

David: up there. 

Aaron: Yeah.

Amy: I feel like Nina is a super special guest on most of our podcast episodes.

Aaron: She, she's a little bit like Laurie McCants, where she's a synapse in ways

Amy: I always used to to to talk about how like Bloomsburg is one of those crossroads of the universe where like, for whatever reason people seem to have some sort of a connection to Bloomsburg, no matter, you know, where they're from or where they're going.

And I'm starting to believe too in my older age that certain people are crossroads to the universe. And I think Nina is one of them. And I think Laurie McCants is one of them.

David: Mm-hmm.

Amy: It's not six degrees of Laurie McCants. It's like two or three degrees of Laurie McCants.

Aaron: I, well, I would wager because of your resume, David, you probably serve that for a lot of people too, where, where

Amy: Oh yeah.

Aaron: Connecting a lot of different networks of people.

David: Yeah, I, I suspect that I do from my years at BTE and all the, the Ensemble members and the guest artists I worked with there and then when I was in Los Angeles, all the TV and film 

Aaron: mm-hmm.

David: I worked with there. And then I, I don't travel a lot in magical circles, but I

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: number of magicians and so, yeah, I guess maybe I do

Aaron: Yeah.

David: Maybe I'm a synapse too, and I never knew it until I got onto this podcast.

That's 

Aaron: what we're here for. We're, we're here to shine a light.

David: I'm putting on my resume now.

Aaron: Yeah. Synapse.

David: gonna be the Synapse Tour

Aaron: Yeah,

Amy: Oh,

David: yeah,

Amy: that's got some,

Aaron: David Moreland, Universal Synapse.

David: Yeah.

Amy: Oh my goodness. So Aaron just, alluded to some of what you've done after you left BTE. You've been on tons of TV shows, been in tons of film, some of these are, very well known shows, but I have to admit, David, the ones that I get most excited about are probably not the ones that most people get most excited about.

David: What do you get excited about?

Amy: Wings was such a huge part of my childhood. I watched Wings every morning. There were two episodes on back to back, and it was just early enough that no one else in my family was up. So I could actually watch TV.

David: Wow. Well, you know, that was my very first TV show so I got my union card

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: of doing Wings a little tiny scene opposite Tony Shaloub.

Aaron: I'm so jealous.

David: About five or six years ago, Tony Shaloub was doing the Play Act One

Aaron: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

David: in New

Aaron: Speaking about Moss Hart Yeah. Yep.

David: George Kaufman, their story and my daughters, my two daughters, Olivia and Geneva were, were huge Monk fans, so I took them to see Act One, and afterwards, we waited by the stage door and we got a chance to chat with Tony and I reminded him of that role. And then he very kindly autographed some photos for my daughters, which they got a huge kick out

Amy: Oh, 

David: Yeah, I. 

Amy: my goodness. I love that so much. Yeah. Yes. 

Aaron: ! That was a good first foray into TV that was a wonderful show. 

David: Oh yeah. And you know, all those years in Bloomsburg just, you know, put me in such good stead out in Los Angeles because looking back when I think 11 years doing five or six shows a year, having an opportunity to, to walk the boards and practice my craft with lots of different actors and lots of different directors and just logging lots of hours on stage. I can't imagine many actors, know, I was in my mid twenties to mid thirties when I was with Bloomsburg, who had that kind of opportunity in the United States, that's an opportunity you have in, in England,

Aaron: Yeah.

David: Not here. And so I feel like I brought, all of that into every audition and every role. And because they can be, they can be nerve wracking situations. I mean, doing a sitcom, you

Aaron: Yeah.

David: taping it on a Friday night when a live audience and there are all these cameras rolling and, and it's nerve wracking and I was very happy for that background. I think it got me the work and I think when I did the work, I did better for it.

Aaron: Hmm. Hmm. Kimie actually just popped in, was in a workshop in Philly this weekend, she relayed that folks came and said, oh, Bloomsburg must be this utopia, or, or this, you know, this haven, artistic haven. And I think I, I personally lose because we are helping administrate as well and trying to keep it running. And, and much of that effort of the financial end of things, we kind of forget the blessing of getting to do five shows a year. 

Amy: Yeah, I just did the math fairly recently. Aaron was in the room with me and like just in my short time at BTE, I've been involved in some capacity in over 30 productions and like, that feels incredible to me and I wouldn't, I wouldn't get that elsewhere.

I'm not an incredibly strong auditioner, so, where I really excel is in the rehearsal room and in through a prolonged rehearsal experience. And getting to work with the people at BTE and them getting to know that about me and know that I might not find it right away, but I'm gonna find that character, um, has given me an opportunity that I don't think I would've gotten in theatre absolutely anywhere else.

David: Mm-hmm.

Aaron: Yeah. being a free agent now for as long as you have, are there things about the Ensemble work that you value or perhaps miss or perhaps don't miss from your time here? 

David: Well. There's the opportunity to work alongside some very strong actors and to learn what they learned. when I was with the Ensemble, most of the, the, Ensemble had been through Northwestern University and Alvina Krause and I was not, I was a History major at the University of Michigan and I picked up acting classes here and there--

Aaron: Right.

David: Working with people who had had stronger training,

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: I think that something came to me by osmosis and also by kind of watching and copying or learning fromand then of course the whole, you know, being an Ensemble member and having to wear so many hats, you know, administrative hats

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: technical hats and, I mean, there was one production I was the Costume Designer for, oh God, help us. And I actually sewed things. That was something, um, oh my goodness. And, you know, and then so when you strike off on your own, and you become a magician and you're responsible for all your own tech needs and your design needs and, and stuff like that,

Aaron: Yeah.

David: Sure that that whole Ensemble experience comes back and comes in handy.

Aaron: That sounds like a good segue for to talk about the act. What spurred your interest in magic? And then tell us a little bit more about what you're gonna be doing when you're here.

David: Sure. Like a lot of kids, I think boys in particular, I was. Interested in magic. When I was 8, 9,

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: Years old, had, I grew up in a little farm town outside of Buffalo, New York, and I actually made my own magic stand. I went to the library all the time and I got books of magic and I made magic tricks and I put on shows for friends. And, then like a lot of boys I just dropped it. And became interested in theatre. I did theatre all through high school, through college. And then was hired to come into, Bloomsburg for a season with a theatre. of course I hadn't thought seriously about magic since I was 8, 9, 10 years old.

Aaron: Hmm.

David: And, in the season I was cast in the children's theatre production King Arthur and the Knights of the Roundtable, and Elizabeth Dowd was the Director

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: I and several other actors had been cast, but roles had not yet been assigned. And on the first day rehearsal, Elizabeth said, okay, we're doing the King Arthur Tales.

So of course there's the character, Merlin the Magician. We need somebody to play Merlin, who here knows some magic? And nobody said anything. And Elizabeth said, well, come on, come on. Somebody must know some magic.

Amy: The assumption that someone in the room knew magic is so wild.

David: Exactly. Oh yeah. Well that's Elizabeth for you. Um,

Aaron: True.

David: then she said, come on, somebody must know some magic. And I said, well, when I was eight and nine, she said, you're Merlin. so I had to come up with, five or six magical effects for the show,

Aaron: Oh, wow.

David: Were very well received by the kids

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: And rand Elizabeth's husband, Rand Whipple

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: The show. And Rand, in addition to being an actor with the company as Elizabeth, was he worked as a mime.

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: He said to me, you know, if. You, David, ever come up with a magic show? I get calls as mime. I get calls from magicians all the time. I don't know who to refer people to.

Aaron: Hmm.

David: And that was probably, that was, it's astonishing. That might've been close to 40 years ago, and which blows my mind. 

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: I Would never tell anybody I've been a magician for 40 years 'cause they'll just assume I'm dead. So what I say is it's over 20 years. So please erase this from a podcast. Nah, you can keep it in the podcast. , so I put together a magic show and I performed my first magic show in, is it es Espy?

Aaron: Yeah.

Amy: Yeah.

Aaron: Yeah.

David: An elementary school that has now been torn down. It doesn't even exist anymore. And I am so thankful to Elizabeth and 

Aaron: Hmm 

David: and Rand for making that suggestion because magic has been a great part of my life all these years. It was, you know, something I did on the side all of my years at BTE. And then when I went to Los Angeles, I was pursuing TV and film work, but I was also doing kids' birthday parties, sometimes 15, 

Aaron: mm-hmm. 

David: 20 a month

Amy: Wow.

David: In And then my family and I, after six years in, Los Angeles, we moved to Ithaca, New York and I helped raise my girls there for about 20 years. And I did a lot of library work and just general stuff. And now I've come to New York City, where I've been for about four years. And I'm a school performer and I travel around. I do bullying, prevention magic shows and character education magic shows and reading magic shows and a science magic show. And I am so thankful that I have that kind of financial foundation that magic has given me and, and the performance outlet. And that's all thanks to BTE and Elizabeth and Rand.

Amy: It is wild that you went from who here in this room knows magic? You know, I was interested when I was, you know, eight to Professional Magician.

Aaron: What you're doing full time?

David: No, no. Life is funny that way.

Aaron: Mm-hmm. 

David: You know how, how just a little thing can turn into a big thing and how fortunate I was that that moment happened. I mean, how many, how many Bloomsburg members have come thinking that they're just gonna do this one show in Bloomsburg, or just be here for the summer or just for, and then they stay for decades.

Aaron: Yeah.

Amy: Yeah. Why.

Aaron: I, I also think there's something about the necessity that, because it is the group of people that you have, right? And, and so it's like, we got this group the play requires this. And so out of necessity you have to ask, and sometimes, sometimes the ask is, you have a,tertiary understanding of this.

Go develop it for this show. You know?

David: I mean, if, if,

Aaron: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

David: Bloomsburg had deeper pockets, they could have called in a magic consultant for the show and,

Aaron: Right.

David: for me that would've been, probably, would've a magic in the King Arthur Tales. But, um, it would've had a very different outcome for me.

Aaron: Yeah.

David: yeah. Sure.

Aaron: Yeah. Well, and developing the skills of the individuals who are here, which I think is Yeah. In our current mission is Ensemble driven, right? That, that we are, not only serving the community, but we're also serving the artists who make up the Ensemble.

David: Right.

Aaron: That continues to be rare, to make that investment in people.

David: I didn't answer the question. I think the question was what I'm going to, is that right? What I'm gonna do?

Aaron: Yeah But I think we're at the point where that makes sense to talk about.

David: Well, I'm gonna run a master class for I believe seven or eight to 12 year olds, on Friday, June 13th. It'll go from five to 8:00 PM and every participant gets a magic set, a magic set that would probably retail, owe for about $25 all by itself. And we're gonna spend that three hours, working through each of the effects and to the extent that you can in three hours, kind of mastering those effects. Um, learning, not just the mechanics of them, but actually how to perform them and, make a little drama out of each one. And then, I'll be following that on Saturday and Sunday I'll be doing, three performances of my magic show, at 11:00 AM on Saturday, and then again at 3:00 PM on Saturday the 14th, and then at 3:00 PM on Sunday the 15th. 

Aaron: That's just fabulous. That's just fabulous. I'm so excited to share that with the kids of Bloomsburg. I'm gonna have to see if my 11-year-old can get in there.

Amy: Yeah, like I would've jumped on that so fast as a kid, and I wasn't even necessarily super interested in magic, but the idea of like knowing something that other kids didn't know that I was super interested.

David: Yeah.

Amy: The clout of it, specialized knowledge.

David: You know, a about not being very interested in magic because as magicians go, I feel like. I am not very interested in magic, and I think that is like a strength that I bring to the table,

Aaron: Hmm.

David: Interested in theatre. And Amy and Aaron, you're interested in theatre and I think that's what I like to think that I bring to the table during my kids' magic show and teaching the magic workshop that I, I make things into a little theatrical experience with the kind of rhythm and the timing and the conflict and, everything you would expect from a little play. I'd like to think that I bring into most of my routines.

Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And what is, the little play, , or theme in the show that you're gonna be performing?

David: absolutely no theme to the show, but I, every, every, every routine, every routine has its little, um, you know, a lot of times as a performer, I put myself in a state of crisis, that something has gone terribly wrong with an effect,

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: That the kids are wise to me,

Aaron: Hmm.

David: see what I'm doing wrong and I can't figure out how to get out of it. So it creates a sort of, conflict and a desperate situation that I think brings a lot of comedy and a lot of fun to the individual routines. But there's, in terms of absolutely, there's no through line to my show at all. It's like a grab bag of fun stuff.

Aaron: Thanks. Good, good, good. So David Moreland in Crisis is, is the theme. 

Amy: Well, and there's no faster way to endear yourself to kids than to like I, I don't wanna say be stupid, but-- 

David: Yeah. Be, be in trouble and, and have them, you know, there's so few instances where they have the upper hand on an adult and I think one of the things that I enjoy that somehow I get away with is that I'm actually, I'm kind of a, like an abrasive Don Rickles kind of with the kids and somehow are endeared to me. I don't understand it, I yell at them, they, they seem to enjoy me all the more. So go figure.

Aaron: It makes, I mean, Don Rickles was called, his nickname was Mr. Warmth, wasn't it? Uh, yeah.

David: Something. Yeah. Right.

Aaron: you get to have that because they already know that you care about them or you're there for them, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

David: I, yeah, I like kids and I love performing for them, and I think they, they pick up on that.

Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Amy: And those performances stick with those kids forever. I can still remember, uh, a, it was a magic troupe that came to my elementary school, but we didn't get very many in-school type performances. When I was that age in where we were located in rural Tennessee. It just. It didn't, we didn't have a BTE, you know, bringing Theatre in the Classroom tours to us.

So this was, you know, one of those like regional, like science magic tours , I still vividly remember that and it wasn't even particularly great,

David: Hmm. Right.

Amy: You know? But I remember that and I remember like, wow, this is a thing you can do. And being very intrigued by that.

David: Right. No, I know. I similarly, I think I remember every magician I saw as a kid. like you say, Amy, they weren't all that great, but I remember them. And perhaps even back then I was thinking, uh, you know what I would do differently

Amy: Yes! 

David: Um. You know, here I am. But what you were saying, Amy, about, kids remembering it, when I was in Bloomsburg, perhaps six or seven years ago, I was

Aaron: Hmm.

David: at the Bloomsburg Public Library and I was introduced. And had as part of the show a, I don't know, six or 7-year-old girl

Aaron: Yeah.

David: the daughter of. A woman who as a girl, I had performed birthday party magic shows for

Aaron: Hmm.

David: several occasions in Bloomsburg. and so,

Amy: I love that.

David: probably perform for the grandaugher in more. 10 years. So, if I'm still up and kicking,

Aaron: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

Amy: My goodness.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you feel like the kids keep you young? Because I, I to say that you've been doing magic for as long as you have, I don't look at you and think there's any way that that's physically possible.

David: You know, it's sometimes it really surprises me that, It's the cliche, but you know, your performance in my, my show requires a lot of energy

Aaron: Hmm.

David: me, but I get a lot of it back from the audience too. And for instance, last summer, I'm gonna be doing the same thing this summer. My summer library tour is condensed, but I perform three shows a day at three different libraries. Five days a week. Sometimes I pick up an extra show on Saturday. I'm doing it two weeks in a row. That'll be 30 some shows the course of 10 days, I do it. And people's jaw drops when I tell them that. But I could do that for like a couple more weeks and, and it's fine that you, so, my energy's holding up and their energy that comes back to me is, is, sustaining me.

And

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: I think a, as you get older, you also learn, save energy and, you learn how to. focus an audience so you don't have to spend so much energy getting them to focus and, you learn tips and tricks that are going to make everything easier for you. and so I, I think if I were to do the same tour when I was in my twenties, I would probably, you'd be able to mop the floor with me. But now as a 64-year-old,

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: I, I.can do it almost without breaking a sweat

Amy: It's so impressive.

Aaron: almost,

Amy: Wow.

Aaron: Feeding off energy is, or letting energy reciprocate, that's a great lesson to learn as a performer. I can remember being a young performer and just, oh, it's my job to generate the energy.

David: Right,

Aaron: I think now, you know, am in my fourth decade. recognizing that being open and letting it be a circle instead of a straight line, of energy, it helps, it helps a lot.

David: Mm-hmm.

Aaron: recognize that.

Amy: Now I know you're going to give away the secrets in your masterclass. Are there any tricks you have that you won't tell anybody how you do them? Proprietary David Moreland tricks?

David: Oh yeah, yeah. Like I teach magic in the show, but a part of the Magician's Code is

Aaron: Mm-hmm.

David: never reveal how magic is done.

Aaron: That's right.

David: The stuff in my show is a carefully guarded secret except for other magicians. And then I, you know. I freely and as they do with me, they, they share their knowledge with me. But there's one bit of magic that, maybe I will do in the show, but I first did it at Memorial Elementary School

Aaron: Uh

David: I was teaching magic workshop there to the enrichment students.

Aaron: hmm.

David: Was this bit of magic that I learned from a library book. And I performed it for them, and they were so blown away.

It was from a children's magic book. They were so blown away at that moment, the first time I taught it, I said to myself, I'm never gonna teach this again. I'm just gonna put it in the show. And it's in the show now. I perform it regularly and audiences love it and it's so incredibly simple. it's one of my, it's one of those guarded secrets. So yes, at the workshop, I spill the beans on everything, but

Aaron: Not that one.

David: like, no, this is sacred.

Aaron: Yeah.

Amy: Proprietary blend.

David: yes, exactly.

Aaron: Fabulous. Anything else you wanted to share with us, that we haven't asked you about? 

David: I can't think of a darn thing. II think you know it all.

Amy: This has been so delightful.

Aaron: Yes.

David: Thank you so much.

Aaron: of course.

David: Has been a lot of fun and, I, I'm looking forward to the show. I, I hope anyone who's interested sends their kid to the workshop on that Friday. I think they'll walk away with, oh, probably eight or nine magic tricks that they can perform quite well. Oh, and I should say that, um, you come to the workshop, you also get access to a top secret page on my website where.

Amy: Ah.

David: I have videos of me teaching all the tricks that we work through in the workshop. So if during the course of the workshop you've kind of forgotten how something works, you have that resource to go back to on my, on my website. And then I hope all those people come see the shows on Saturday and Sunday. There are lots of fun, lots of opportunities for volunteers, lots of noisy, silly fun. 

Amy: Well, and if everyone was paying attention at the. The beginning, they now know that they can take that 8-year-old interest in magic and turn it into a lifelong career. 

David: Forty year career, your child will not need to go to college. Why spend all that money on the University of Michigan when you could just go straight to the career in magic?

Amy: Right.

David: Yeah. 

Aaron: Kids stay in school.

Amy: No, I think that sounds like the real American dream, honestly.

David: I, it's a, yeah, it's, it served me

Aaron: That's right.

Amy: Oh,

Aaron: Thanks for your time, David. 

Amy: yeah.

David: 

Amy: This has been Bloomsburg theatre Ensemble Down Center, Ensemble Driven. Professional Theatre Arts Education, Rural Pennsylvania. For Everyone. With Everyone, the great and powerful Dave will be performing at the Alvina Krause

theatre June 14th and 15th. Tickets are a steal at only $10. And this Magic Masterclass is for elementary and middle school aged kids and will take place on Friday, June 13th. It costs $70 and the kids get to walk away with their very own magic kit. Snag your tickets now@www.bte.org. 

Aaron: I'm glad that you are, uh, an example,

David: Uh,

Aaron: the, the out one of the outcomes,

David: I, I don't know. of what, but

Aaron: you're one of the outcomes

David: let David Morland be an example to you. Um, yes. I, I think the University of Michigan says that all the time. Yeah. See

Amy: their recruiting. Yeah.

David: that be an example to

Aaron: Yes. History majors of, of Michigan.

David: yes. Yeah, well, I. never graduated and I think maybe

Aaron: Ah, I see. Yeah,

David: how they do it.

You know, didn't graduate