S3E4: Winter Workshops: Creative Kids Welcome

Ensemble Members, Abigail Leffler (Education Director) & Aaron White (Resident Artist) are grilled by Theatre School students about all things theatre, teaching, and BTE.

Recorded and Edited by: Aaron White
Original Music by: Aaron White

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S3E4: Winter Workshops - Creative Kids Welcome 

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Intro

Aaron: Welcome to Bloomsburg Theatre Ensemble Down Center. A podcast that spotlights our company, our people, art, and our town, and lets the kids take front and down center. Hi there, I'm Aaron White, resident artist and ensemble member at BTE, and I'm here with fellow ensemble member and education director, Abby Leffler.

In this episode, we're flipping the script and handing over the show to a few creative kids who have attended BTE Theatre School, and let them ask us, their teachers, anything they want to know. 

Winter Workshops

Aaron: So Abby, tell us a little bit about BTE Theatre School and Winter Workshops. 

Abby: Sure. BTE Theatre School is something that BTE has been doing for quite some time. We offer after school programming to grade school humans, and sometimes adults, where we teach you anything about theatre. It can be, acting, it can be musical theatre, improv, stage makeup, it can be production based.

We've taught costume workshops before, and stuff like that. And that's the general idea of what BTE Theatre [00:01:00] School is. Winter workshops, however, are Saturday workshops. So I'm already lying about it being an after school program. And 

Aaron: Well, tell the truth. 

Abby: I try, but I'm an accidental liar.

So Winter Workshops are on Saturdays and they're what we call one-offs. So you sign up for a workshop and that is a three hour workshop that you do on that Saturday whether it be in the morning or in the afternoon and we are gonna start January, oh no, what day is it?

You can keep this in here. 

Aaron: Okay, sounds good. 

Abby: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like, I like the errors being kept in. January 4th, it starts January 4th. 

Aaron: Cool. So, 

Abby: Right after the New Year. 

Aaron: Happy New Year. Here's a weekend of awesome theater things. 

Abby: Yeah! Yeah, 

Aaron: awesome. So, winds up teaching these classes? 

Abby: It can be anybody full time at BTE: if It can be me, but it also can be our resident artists, which are you, Amy, and Kimi. Sarah York Justine Drake, one of our new employees, could do [00:02:00] it. But currently, who is teaching these workshops for this year's Winter Workshops are me, Kimi, Amy, you, and my friend Violet Race is coming in to help me teach a couple.

Aaron: Started out as a BTE kid. Yes, she did. Probably taking, workshops. Yeah, and now 

Abby: She's one of my go to teaching artists that I contact when I need somebody to help me out.

Aaron: I think one of the other great things about Winter Workshops particularly is that it's a one and done. Right? It's a bite size. 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Right? So you're only doing two hours, three hours? 

Three hours. 

Right. You're only doing three hours, uh, on a Saturday.

Abby: Yeah. 

Aaron: And, and you get, you know, something intense and then you don't have to worry about filling up the next five weeks. Yeah. Or being there for the next five weeks. Well, 

Abby: and especially for new people who aren't sure if they want to do theater, three hours is a good way to broach it and be like, hey, I like this or maybe I don't like that and that's okay. 

Aaron: Awesome. 

KIddo Intro

Aaron: Without further ado. We got these two lovely humans [00:03:00] sitting next to us. Mm hmm. And they're just they're giddy. I can see it. And, and then the face changes. Wow, Rosie, that was the quickest shift in ....

Listener, if you're listening, if you, imagine in your mind's eye a smiling child and then total what would you describe that emotion? 

Rosie: Seriousness? Forced seriousness. 

Abby: Forced seriousness. 

Aaron: Beat change. Awesome beat change. So why don't we have you introduce yourself? So Kyla, tell me who you are and what's your relationship to BTE? 

Kyla: Well, I'm Kyla. I'm a senior at Danville and I've been a high school intern since 2022. I was in Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe in Christmas Carol, and I've helped backstage with. 

Aaron: Were you a high school intern for two years?

Kyla: Yes. 

Aaron: Yes, a bunch of shows. Spent a lot of time backstage. 

Kyla: Yes. 

Aaron: And, what theater school classes have you taken? 

Kyla: A long time ago, I took a week long camp, and [00:04:00] we performed our very own play the Pied Paper of Hamlin Hills. 

Aaron: And tell me more about that. 

Kyla: Well, there was a Pied Piper and it was the Real Housewives put with rats, and that's about all I can recall.

Abby: That was the first camp that was happening when I got hired here at BTE. I remember that. That was a hilarious play. 

Aaron: Awesome. And Rosie, why don't you tell me who you are and what's your relationship to BTE?

Rosie: I'm Rosie. I'm a fifth grader at Benton, and I've only done one show recently, the Velveteen Rabbit. 

Aaron: Hmm.

Rosie: And I don't think I've ever worked backstage. 

Aaron: Not yet. 

Rosie: Not yet. 

Aaron: Not yet. And what theater school classes have you taken? 

Rosie: I've done musical theater twice. 

 You take one of my combat classes? No. You don't, we were only dancing, we were never hitting. 

No. 

Aaron: No.

Because I remember you being in one of the classes that I taught. I do. Eyebrows. [00:05:00] 

Rosie: Like, where we threw a ball at each other, like, the wrong way? 

Aaron: Yes, we played ball games. Oh. We did this series of ball games. 

Rosie: Oh. I thought that was also a musical theater. 

Abby: That was a musical theater. 

Aaron: It was a musical theater.

Rosie: Okay then, yeah, two years of it. 

First Round Questions

Aaron: So Rosie's got a list of questions, and Kyla's got some bubbling in her brain. Twelve questions, you get to pick three. 

Rosie: Okay. 

Aaron: So, Rosie, why don't you start? What questions do you have for Abby and I? 

Rosie: Have you ever traveled like far away to do a play? 

Aaron: I have. Abby, what's your experience? 

Abby: The only time I've ever traveled for a play was a traveling play, which is TIC, for theater in the classroom.

So those were my touring shows. If you count moving to a different state, then yes, I went to North Carolina and did plays for 10 years. But outside of that, I've never actually like left my home temporarily to spend time somewhere else to [00:06:00] perform. That's never been something that I've been able to do yet.

Aaron: Yet. Yeah, So, after I graduated from college. I was kind of a traveling migratory person for a while. So I've traveled to Texas, to, to Houston and to Kilgore, to the Texas Shakespeare Festival. And I traveled to Virginia and was in the Virginia Shakespeare Festival in Williamsburg. And I did theater in Cape Cod and I did theater in the Adirondacks.

And I did theater, I did a tour of A Christmas Carol with Nebraska Theater Caravan. And we were on tour for the whole month of December, and so I got in a month, I think I, I, I collected maybe 20 states because we, we, we, we toured the entire Midwest. So everywhere from Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, all the way over to Ohio.

So and then down to Missouri and up to the Dakotas. [00:07:00] Uh, and the upper peninsula I traveled. So, so the short answer is... 

Abby & Aaron: yes. Yes. 

Aaron: But that, that was kind of what my life was for the first five or six years of being a professional actor. And then I moved to Bloomsburg and now I don't go anywhere. Now I only come to Bloomsburg.

Rosie: That's cool. 

Abby: Aaron White. I lied again, I did travel for a show once, as you were talking, I just remembered what it was. My first professional theater gig was where I traveled for a show. I went to East Stroudsburg University and performed the Laramie Project. Oh, there you go. Yeah, so it counted.

Aaron: There you go. Awesome. Great question. Yeah. Great question. Hey, Kyla, do you have a question? 

Kyla: I do. I've done two high school theater workshop days, so what is your favorite class to teach to teenagers? 

Abby: That's a good question. I would say there's two. All right. And for teenagers, because they are a different breed of human to teach. Most of the time when they get into a theater [00:08:00] school class, they're there cause they want to be. Right? By the time they're teenagers, their parents are like, they're not forcing them into it anymore, trying to find interest. That is the interest you have found. And that is what you are committed to.

So the two things that I like to teach teenagers is basics of acting or an acting studio where we work scene work or monologue work and stuff like that. That's a lot of fun. And also, I'm a huge improv fan, so I'm, I love teaching improv any chance I get, so that's a lot of fun, too, to see, , the teenagers, , find their goofy side, which sometimes it's hard to find. Those are my favorite ones.

Aaron: I have not gotten the chance to teach this in a high school theater workshop. But I did a, this was a little while ago, and it was a week long class in the summer. And I did a Shakespeare camp. And we did some scenes from Romeo and Juliet. And, those scenes on actual teenage people are so good. they're juicy and know where they're coming from. And we played ball games for that to, Rosie, we played [00:09:00] the same ball games because it's all about connecting to your partner But I think that's my favorite...

 High school theater workshop... I do enjoy The acting through song, which you took. 

Kyla: No, I did not. 

Aaron: You didn't take that? Never mind. Someday you and I should do that class. 

Kyla: Yes. 

Aaron: But I actually really like that one because sometimes my mother, who is a fine vocal teacher, she taught at Susquehanna for years, comes in and does the vocal side of it and plays the piano and then we act through song.

And I enjoy that one a lot. Someday, we'll get you in that room. 

Kyla: Totally.

Round 2 Questions

Kyla: Alright, Rosie, your turn.

Rosie: If you do one show, about how many people will come to it?

Aaron: Well, it depends upon the show. So, we're gonna do a Christmas Carol, that's coming up, it will be open by the time people hear this, so. Um, we'll be in our second week of performances. And when we do that show, we have about 350 seats in our theater.

And for a lot of that run, we get almost 350 people a night. 

Rosie: Wow. 

Aaron: Yeah, [00:10:00] so it's, it's pretty substantial. And then there are other shows, actually, Velveteen Rabbit and some of the summer shows, those also tend to fill up to that amount. Then there are other shows that we would love for 350 people to see and only maybe a hundred.

A hundred is a good night sometimes for some of our more, um, esoteric fare. Do you know what esoteric means? 

Rosie: No. 

Aaron: Alright. Ha ha ha. That's appropriate. Esoteric means that only certain people might be interested. It's real specialized. I would love for 350 people to see shows like Sanctuary City or Holmes Watson. Later on we're going to be doing Misery and The Little Prince this year, so I hope people come and see them. 

Rosie: I hope to see The Little Prince. Are you excited about The Little Prince? Yeah. 

Aaron: Good. Have you read the book? 

Rosie: Yeah, I think. Maybe. Probably. I think I have.

Aaron: Well, it's originally a French book. And so you could read it in French or you could read it in English. 

Rosie: I [00:11:00] think English would be easier. 

Kyla: What's the most challenging part about doing a show with a lot of kids? 

Aaron: That's a juicy question and you know it.

Abby: You said what's the most challenging thing? 

Kyla: Yes, or I could change it to your favorite thing. 

Abby: Favorite thing? I'll do favorite thing, my favorite thing is to see young performers for the first time understand what performing for an audience feels like. That adrenaline rush or that magical feeling that makes Aaron and I do the things that we do every day for the job that we have, they get it finally, right? It's hard to describe that magical moment, but seeing young artists have that is pretty cool. 

Aaron: Yeah.

I agree. The most challenging is that there, particularly when we do big shows, that, uh, we can be overwhelmed by the energy in the room. And then on the other foot of that same thing is that energy is really useful. [00:12:00] And my favorite thing is actually watching someone who maybe has done it for the first time... and seeing them discover a new skill or a new talent. So I'm pointing at Rosie right now. Because Rosie played the toy fairy in Velveteen Rabbit this summer. And, was it during dress rehearsals, I think? And we discovered the I'm a Gonna Go. exit. 

Rosie: Yeah, that's hilarious it was during dress rehearsal. That was hilarious.

Aaron: Because I know Rosie is a really, like, creative, fun person. And I've seen you be really goofy. Yeah, very goofy. Very goofy. 

Rosie: I like being goofy. 

Aaron: Yeah. And then we put all these lights and costumes on her, and she just walks in like, here I am, and here I'm standing on these steps. And then we discovered the I'm-a-gonna-go arms and all of a sudden you just went 

bing 

and there was the fairy and it was like such a cool transformation. 

Rosie: Well once you started explaining my blocking as goofy then I really started to get it. 

Aaron: Yeah you could indulge in it, yeah absolutely. And so, [00:13:00] so seeing folks sort of claim the fun, that is a very pleasurable 

Rosie: I actually remember a quote. You said, show is, like, supposed to be really fun, and that's why it's called a play. Nice. 

Aaron: That's why we don't call it work. Does that answer your question? Yes. That's the diplomatic answer. Yes. 

Round Three

Aaron: Alright, Rosie, your turn. 

Rosie: what's the favorite role you ever played?

Abby: I'll let you go first. I've been going first each time, so I'm going to let you go. 

Aaron: It, honestly, it really depends because there, I've been in a lot of plays. Someone, we actually had our first Tiny Tim rehearsal last night, and one of our introduction questions was, How many plays have you been in? And I'm celebrating my 20th year as a professional actor for two decades, right? Kyla just went BAM! 

Kyla: No, it did not! 

Aaron: Blown away! So I've been in a lot of plays. Musicals? I think, I did Jesus [00:14:00] Christ Superstar, and I was Jesus in college, and that was a really fun show to be in, and the rock and roll of that. Shakespeare? Probably... I've played Romeo a bunch. And I've played Hamlet a bunch. And I like both of those roles. Those are good meaty, meaty roles to go through and do. I like those a lot. And I like Shakespeare that I can sing in. Because I just did Feste and Twelfth Night and I like doing that a lot.

Yeah. How about you? 

Abby: So, I don't have as, as many favorites. Uh, cause I, anytime this question is raised, I'm like, Huh? I did play? I can't remember anything. But one of my favorite musicals I ever did was, It was Mrs. Lovett and Sweeney Todd. So that is, that is by far my favorite musical that I've ever done. That was back in 2018. Right now I don't necessarily have a favorite character that I've ever played other than maybe like... I really relish discovering characters in improv, [00:15:00] and that is one of my favorite things to do, is to be that goofy, get into that fun that we were just talking about that you discovered and allowing that to fill your body and discover a character in that moment.

That is one of my favorite things to do.

Aaron: Hey, Kyla. You've been in a lot of plays. What's your favorite play? Or your favorite character? 

Kyla: Oh, I don't know. My favorite show I've been in was Ride the Cyclone because it was just a bunch of teenagers doing whatever we want on stage. But my favorite character was Anya in Anastasia because that's just so fun. 

Abby: Yeah. 

Kyla: That was my favorite, one of my favorite movies as a kid, so. 

Aaron: How about you, Rosie? 

Rosie: Well, I guess, probably the Toy Fairy. But that's also my least favorite since it's my only one.

Aaron: So it sounds like we need to broaden your experience, huh? 

Rosie: I hope so. 

Aaron: I hope so too. 

Abby: Yeah. 

Aaron: One that you did backstage? No, it doesn't. Yeah, any. 

Abby: Yeah, any. 

Aaron: Abby and I got to do Dragons of Tacos together. 

Rosie: [00:16:00] That 

Aaron: was the best. I saw it. You saw that one.

Rosie: Yeah, I just, I just came as like the audience. But that was one of the best. 

Aaron: But they, they, they participated a lot in that show. Yeah. I'll pick that one. Also, that was the first one that I got to do with my, with my kid, with Liam. 

Kyla: Oh yeah. 

Aaron: So, there's some proud papa moments in that. When it comes to being fun and discovering things in the moment that show allowed you to 

Rosie: Yeah, you had like seven costume changes over the course of like a minute. It was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. 

Aaron: Also, depending upon what the audience was in that show, the show would just change utterly depending upon how the kids responded. 

Abby: It was like a rock concert each night.

It was. 

Aaron: It was a lot of fun. And actually the Christians might be similar entirely different end of the spectrum Depending upon who was in the audience that night, some people were coming because they wanted to have some sort of, spiritual conversation, like they were going to church. And then there were other people who were [00:17:00] coming to see a play, and depending upon what the mix of people were, it would be an entirely different play each night. Very similar to Dragons Love Tacos, just depending upon who was in the house. 

Abby: Think my favorite one, I was not in this one, so I, I had nothing to do with the production, but one of my favorite ones in the last couple years was Witch. Directed by Amy Rene Byrne. So, that's, that's one of my favorites. 

Kyla: Yeah, I did. I said the Christians, too. They were both very, well, Christians wasn't funny. But, Witch was very funny. 

Aaron: Which was very funny, yeah. 

Kyla: They were both amazing, but. I wouldn't use funny to describe the Christians.

Aaron: No, no. That was very, that was very thought provoking play. 

Kyla: Yeah. 

Rosie's Bonus Question

Aaron: Awesome. Rosie, I know you have 12. You get one, you get one extra one. 

Rosie: Thanks. Have you ever filmed a movie at BTE? 

Aaron: Not a whole movie. So we do trailers and teasers. So we do video footage to advertise. So that's stuff that we do.

Rosie: I've done one before. 

Aaron: Yes. [00:18:00] Exactly. Velveteen Rabbit. So we've done that. During COVID, during the pandemic when we were locked down, we did a Zoom play called Fair Food Foul Play. 

Rosie: That's cool. 

Aaron: It was a murder mystery. 

Abby & Aaron: Yeah. 

Aaron: Where there was real audience participation.

And that was filmed. There were film portions of that. But for the most part, what we make is live performance. So what gets me excited is the immediate call and response. So, like Dragons Love Tacos, how you giggle will make me change my performance depending upon how things resonate with whoever's in the audience.

Which you don't get on film. On film you just have to imagine people responding 

 Kimi Muroya one of our resident actors was in a full film called Antarctica.

And it's on Amazon Prime, but I think it is probably... you gotta be 18 plus to watch it. Yes. You gotta wait, Rosie, and then check it out. Yeah.

Rosie: Okay. 

Aaron: Well, thank you so much for your [00:19:00] questions. 

Abby & Aaron: Mm 

Aaron's Bonus Question

Aaron: Can I ask you all one question? How has your time at BTE impacted the way that you think about theater in general? Cause Kyla, you've been in a lot of plays outside of BTE as well. 

Kyla: Mm-Hmm. 

Aaron: So, it could be good or bad. a takeaway that you've taken outside of BTE? 

Kyla: Well, BTE has a lot of, like, hours that are typical in real theater and professional theater. And that's really helped me just get used to doing musicals, especially shows , like, Ride the Cycle and we rehearsed a lot, and I don't think I would have been like, as prepared to do that if I hadn't done BTE shows before. Yeah. And because I've done crew so much, and I realize how much it takes to be in crew, now I appreciate it a lot more when I am an actor, and I, because just in theater in general, crew can be kind of a thankless job, so.

It was really a good experience to do a lot of crew because now I know what it takes. 

Aaron: And recognizing that you're all on the team. Yes. [00:20:00] Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Cool. How about you, Rosie? What did you learn in classes that you might have employed in Velveteen Rabbit or otherwise? 

Rosie: Well, I realized that I want to work here when I grow up.

And that this is pretty much one of the awesomest programs that I've experienced and I learned how to know when to follow a cue. And also how to help someone if they completely forget their lines. And how to, like, kind of improv beforehand and help them out.

Aaron: Because did that happen on stage? 

Rosie: Yep. 

Aaron: Yep. To stay present in the moment to help somebody out. 

Abby: Oh yeah. 

Aaron: Awesome. Well, thank you both so much for your time today. You're welcome. 

Well, thank you both very much for coming today. Thank you. You betcha. Have a great season, you're, you're auditioning tomorrow, yeah? Mhmm. Alright, well break a leg.

Thank you. Uh, break a leg. [00:21:00] Not good luck. Good luck 

Rosie: is bad luck. 

Aaron: And Rosie, do you have anything creative coming up? 

Rosie: I have a school operetta coming up on Wednesday. A school 

Aaron: operetta? What operetta? 

Rosie: 5th and 6th grade do, like They're like kinda half acting, half singing. 5th grade is the chorus, and 6th grade does half acting, half chorus. 

Aaron: What show? 

Rosie: Not actual shows. It's called the Granny Awards. It's about Grammy Awards being given to fairy tale characters.

But it's called Granny Awards. That sounds awesome! 

Aaron: What school? 

Rosie: Benton. 

Aaron: Benton. Oh, that's right. You said Benton. 

Rosie: Awesome. 

Aaron: We'll break a leg to you, too. You're welcome. Awesome. Well, thanks both very much. Have a great rest of your day. Thank you. You're welcome. 

Winter Workshop Classes for Christmas

Abby: Winter Workshops we have a lot to offer this season. What we have first on the docket is Destination Devising, which is going to be a workshop all about devising theater. So we're going to play some devising theater games and stuff like that. [00:22:00] And then we have Puppet Theater on January 11th, Theater Games on January 18th, January 25th is Movement and Song, and February 1st is monologue work, and February 8th is stage makeup.

Aaron: Cool. So you've got a smattering of a bunch of things. 

Abby: Oh yeah. We've got an eclectic bunch. 

Aaron: So, that roster of classes, sounds like a lot of fun. I have a 10 year old, Nina and I, the person I'm married to, are always trying to think of what we should be getting him for Christmas. Yeah. I think the Winter Workshops are a great idea. 

Abby: Oh, we do gift certificates for Winter Workshops.

Aaron: Really?

Abby: We do. So all you have to do is you have to register them for their workshop, whichever one, and you let me know, and I will mail you a gift certificate so you have something to put under the tree for Christmas. Awesome. Yeah. 

Aaron: Yeah, so you get theater in your stocking. 

Abby: You get theater in your stocking, yes.

Aaron: Where can people find information if they want to know more about Winter [00:23:00] Workshops? 

Abby: www. bte. org and you go to the arts education portion of the website and we are right there with all that information.

And my email should be available on the webpage for you to contact me. 

Aaron: And we'll list that on the, podcast website as well. Make sure that people are able to, to get their gift certificate. 

Abby: Yes, please. I have a whole stack of them that I've been holding onto for a couple of years.

Aaron: So if you're a kid like I was, I remember I loved singing in church and I'd always ask my mom, Hey, could I sing in church? Can I do this? Can I do that? And I was, I was hungry. I wanted to do it. Right. I was very, very little, probably six years old and asking for this and , I wish that we would have had the winter workshops to come and check it out. it is a great way to put your toe in the water if you're curious. 

Abby: Yes, for sure. 

Aaron: Yeah, and very low risk. 

Abby: Yeah, yeah, and super fun. 

Aaron: What's , wonderful about the theater school particularly, and you're such a good advocate for this, is the dabblers, the kids who just enjoy doing it to do it, and aren't [00:24:00] real, keen on diving into the deep end of doing it in front of people.

Abby: Mm hmm. 

Aaron: The theatre school classes are such a great opportunity for that. 

Abby: I love the dabblers. The dabblers are amazing. Um, I feel like the dabblers are the kind of humans that come into theater school looking for a home of some kind, right? And they don't know what their interests are exactly or where they belong. And so to come into theater school and find like a safe environment to be goofy, that is, that is a huge, huge thing for me as a teacher to offer.

Because to be able to dip your toe into something and also feel safe, is a rare thing. 

Abby & Aaron: Mm 

Aaron: hmm. Yeah. 

Abby: And so to have that opportunity is really important that I offer that up. 

Aaron: Yeah. And goofiness is encouraged. Like a place where goofiness is encouraged. 

Abby: Highly. 

Aaron: Thanks, Abby. 

Outro 

Aaron: This has been Bloomsburg Theater Ensemble Down Center. Ensemble driven, professional theater, arts education, in rural Pennsylvania, for [00:25:00] everyone, with everyone. We would like to thank the foundation of the Columbia Montour Chamber of Commerce for the use of equipment that makes recording this podcast possible.

Winter workshops are on sale now! Give the creative kid in your life the gift of learning from a professional BTE artist this holiday season. It's also not too late to make BTE a part of your family's holiday tradition. A Christmas Carol is running at the Alvina Krause Theatre through December 28th.

Tickets and info for both Winter Workshops and A Christmas Carol are at bte. org.

Outtakes 

Rosie: on whatever I choose, and I chose theater this year, so I have an entire survey on my computer. 

Aaron: So you came prepared! Alright, well you get to pick three, so pick your favorite three, and then Abby and I will try and answer them as best as we can. 

Rosie: I don't actually know any off the top of my head, though.

Aaron: Do you want to grab it out of your bag? Sure. That's cool. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. You didn't come so prepared..... 

Kyla: I did not. 

Abby: I'm always a little quiet. 

Aaron: Totally my fault. I'm pumping you up. 

Abby: Pumping.

Aaron: [00:26:00] How's that work?

Rosie: I love how we, how we just like start over and laugh all the time.